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I created and started this thread 13 years ago in March. 😎🎈
I will change it often from now on. This is just a knock around
thread about things in life. My life and others. I am an avid Heidi
Daus Collector, former singer, model and so on. I do this thread because
I enjoy what I do. I love fashion and music and HSN is a little of both.
I cover a lot of music and fashion on this thread. ✨😎
I am going to wish Happy Holidays to all the Peeps out there and please
stay safe. 🌹✨😎I have been shopping and posting on HSN since the late
90’s 😎I have wonderful memories from the HSN we all know and love.
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Good day in the ‘burgh. 🎈😎💕 Lady I have a lot going on today. I am having an issue
with my Cable it’s on the cable company’s end they are trying to fix it. I can still see
most channels but a lot I cannot see. Shizzle! Should be fixed around 3:00 p.m. today.I am glad you are feeling better. I am enjoying the Olympics especially the Ice Dancing. 💕
Loving the skiing the human body is so agile. 😎💕🎈
I am doing this and that today.
Sending warm vibes to you and Jake. 💕😎

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Good day on the Gulf Coast of Florida. 😎💕🎈Hope you had a good visit with hubby.
Happy Valentine’s Week to you both.
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Good morning in S. California. Enjoy this special week with your family. 🎈💕😎

Here is to safe and happy trails. 😎🎈
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NATIONAL UMBRELLA DAY
National Umbrella Day casts a little shade on February 10th. The day honors one of the world’s most useful inventions, the umbrella!
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NATIONAL CREAM CHEESE BROWNIE DAY
On February 10, National Cream Cheese Brownie Day shines a spotlight on an irresistible dessert bar. Combining chocolate and cream cheese has long been a favorite in the bakery. When it’s added to a brownie recipe the results are spectacular.
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SAFER INTERNET DAY
Every year on the second Tuesday in February, Safer Internet Day brings tools, education, and awareness to create a safer internet for both kids and adults. From cyberbullying and identity theft to fraud and human trafficking, the internet can be a frightening place. Safer Internet Day and ConnectSafely.org aim to make the internet a better place.
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NATIONAL HOME WARRANTY DAY
National Home Warranty Day on February 10th reminds us to protect the vital appliances and components of our homes.
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NATIONAL FLANNEL DAY
February 10 is National Flannel Day on the National Day Calendar. Do you know what that means? We’re celebrating a fabric that has been the uniform of the working class, a staple of grunge style, and a must have clothing item for outdoor enthusiasts for centuries.
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Well hello girls. 😎
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She was sewn into it for one night in 1962—to sing to a president.
Sixty years later, the dress became a battleground over history itself.
On May 19, 1962, Marilyn Monroe stepped onto the stage at Madison Square Garden to sing “Happy Birthday” to President John F. Kennedy at a Democratic fundraiser celebrating his 45th birthday.
As she approached the microphone, she slipped off a white ermine fur coat with theatrical slowness. The room—packed with 15,000 people including politicians, celebrities, and journalists—collectively froze.
Underneath was a dress unlike anything anyone had ever seen.
The gown was flesh-toned, covered in over 2,500 hand-sewn crystals that caught the light with every breath and movement. From even a short distance, Monroe appeared nearly nude—an optical illusion created by fabric dyed to match her skin tone exactly, embellished so heavily it glittered like her skin itself was jeweled.
The dress had been designed by young costume sketch artist Bob Mackie and executed by legendary designer Jean Louis. It was constructed from a sheer marquisette fabric, so delicate and so precisely fitted to Monroe’s exact measurements that she couldn’t simply step into it.
She had to be sewn into the dress while wearing it. Literally stitched in, the fabric pulled so tightly against her body that there was no room for undergarments, no margin for error, no possibility of movement beyond carefully controlled steps and breathing.
Monroe stood at the microphone and sang “Happy Birthday, Mr. President” in her distinctive, breathy voice—slowing the familiar song into something that felt intimate, flirtatious, and charged with suggestion that extended far beyond the lyrics.
The performance lasted barely two minutes. But it became instant cultural legend.
The moment was spectacle, glamour, sex appeal, political scandal, and Hollywood mythology all compressed into one appearance. Rumors about an affair between Monroe and Kennedy—already circulating—intensified immediately. The dress became symbolic of everything that moment represented: transgression dressed as celebration, sexuality as power, performance as reality.
Kennedy himself joked afterward: “I can now retire from politics after having had ‘Happy Birthday’ sung to me in such a sweet, wholesome way.”
The joke only confirmed what everyone was thinking. There was nothing wholesome about it.
Three months later, Marilyn Monroe was dead at 36—found in her Los Angeles home on August 5, 1962, from an overdose ruled probable suicide. The dress, along with that final public performance, became part of her legend.
The gown was sold at auction in 1999 for over $1.26 million to a private collector—at the time, the most expensive piece of clothing ever sold at auction. It was eventually acquired by Ripley’s Believe It or Not, which displayed it as a museum piece—untouchable, irreplaceable, a fragile artifact of cultural history.
For sixty years, the dress remained largely preserved as Monroe had left it—a piece of material culture frozen in time, still carrying traces of her body, her perfume, the moment she inhabited it.
Then came the 2022 Met Gala.
Kim Kardashian, one of the most famous women in contemporary culture, announced she would be wearing Marilyn Monroe’s original “Happy Birthday, Mr. President” dress to the event.
Ripley’s Believe It or Not agreed to loan the dress for the appearance—a decision that would ignite immediate and furious controversy.
The moment was framed as homage. Kardashian described the extensive measures she’d taken: losing sixteen pounds in three weeks to fit into the dress, wearing it only for the red carpet walk up the museum steps, changing immediately into a replica for the rest of the event.
But the backlash was swift and severe—not from general public sentiment, but from historians, conservators, archivists, and people who understood what had actually been done.
Bob Mackie, who had designed the original dress sixty years earlier, was blunt in his assessment. He called the loan “a big mistake,” stating flatly: “It was designed for her. Nobody else should be seen in that dress.”
His objection wasn’t about Kim Kardashian specifically. It was about the fundamental nature of what the dress represented and what wearing it meant.
The gown wasn’t just a piece of fashion history. It was a fragile, irreplaceable artifact directly connected to a specific person, a specific body, a specific moment in cultural history. It had been constructed for Marilyn Monroe’s exact measurements—designed not as a garment that could be worn by anyone, but as a second skin for one particular woman.
Professional textile conservators were even more alarmed. They pointed out that historic garments are extraordinarily fragile. Fabrics deteriorate over time. The stress of being worn—even briefly, even carefully—causes damage that is often invisible initially but irreversible.
Photographs taken after the Met Gala appearance appeared to show new damage: crystals missing, fabric stretched, seams strained. Ripley’s disputed some claims but acknowledged the dress showed “minor changes” after being worn.
The controversy exposed a deeper question: What do we owe to history?
Is a historic dress meant to be preserved untouched, protected behind glass, studied but never again inhabited? Or can it be reanimated, worn again, brought back to life even if that risks its physical preservation?
The debate divided sharply. Some argued that seeing the dress worn again—moving, catching light, being experienced as a garment rather than a museum piece—honored Monroe’s memory and the dress’s original purpose.
Others argued that treating irreplaceable historical artifacts as props for contemporary celebrity moments showed profound disrespect for preservation, for history, for the specific meaning the dress carried as Monroe’s.
The disagreement wasn’t really about Kim Kardashian. It was about whether some objects are so historically significant, so intimately connected to specific people and moments, that they transcend their original function and become something else entirely—artifacts that belong to collective memory rather than to anyone’s current use.
Bob Mackie’s comment captured this perfectly: “It was designed for her.”
Not for fashion. Not for general wear. Not for anyone who could fit into it.
For Marilyn Monroe. For her body, her moment, her performance on May 19, 1962.
When she died three months later, that dress became part of how we remember her—a physical object that still carries traces of her presence, her scent, the specific shape of her body, the moment she stood on that stage.
Wearing it again—no matter how carefully, how reverently, how briefly—changed it from artifact into costume. From history into performance. From Monroe’s into someone else’s.
That transformation can’t be undone. Once worn, the dress is no longer purely Monroe’s. It’s now also associated with the Met Gala, with Kardashian, with 2022, with contemporary celebrity culture.
For some, that’s democratization of history—making it accessible, relevant, alive.
For others, it’s violation—treating irreplaceable material culture as if it exists to serve current celebrity moments rather than preserve past ones.
On May 19, 1962, Marilyn Monroe was sewn into a crystal-covered dress to sing “Happy Birthday” to the president.
It was designed for her body. For that moment. For that singular performance.
Sixty years later, that dress became a battleground over whose history it is, who gets to decide how it’s used, and whether some objects are too important to be anything other than carefully preserved memories.
The dress still exists. But the question of what it means—and who it belongs to—remains unresolved.
Sometimes preservation means never touching.
Sometimes memory means keeping things exactly as they were.
Sometimes the most respectful thing we can do for history is leave it alone.
“It was designed for her. Nobody else should be seen in that dress.”
Maybe Bob Mackie was right.
Maybe some moments—and the objects that embody them—should remain untouchable.
Not because we’re afraid to damage fabric and crystals.
But because some things, once lost, can never be recovered.
And once we change history into performance, we can’t change it back.
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