I posted a comment on the Bruce Jenner thread that had been sitting there for at least a week or so. Then some moderator emailed me a warning a couple of weeks later, claiming she removed my "recent post." This seems like an illegitimate practice. The post wasn’t deemed ‘inappropriate’ when it had first been posted. In fact, it had been on the boards for everyone to view for at least a week. Why should I receive a formal warning all these weeks later? That isn’t proper.
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I was able to find the post that was removed. Things on the internet don’t always disappear forever, and it’s out there if you know where to look.
I read the post several different times over a couple of hours trying to figure out why it was removed. I’m going to agree with others who believe someone came along later who took offense to it. Opinions were expressed. If the language bothered someone I think it was because they felt it violated the guideline which states, "Do not use language that is mean spirited, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, degrading or ridiculing to others."
I for one do not believe your sentiments were medical references.
I’ve read other posts where you sit in judgement of others and the way they talk or dress, women who work, and even bereated a poor girl for saying she’d "kill to live in Florida" and told her that when she killed a frog she got what she deserved.
Shirley Phelps, is that you?
I DO remember your post in that thread and I went back and looked and was surprised that it was gone. There was nothing in that post that was against the guidelines. It was simply your opinion. What exactly did your message from the Moderators say?
The Moderators have a lot of posts and threads to read thru and check out…it might have taken time to see the post that was deleted..or someone might have reported the post…but regardless, it would NOT have been deleted by the moderators without there being a violation of the guidelines.
Notice that GrannyJez said that "Well, they gave me some sort of excuse." but did not bother to mention what guideline she was told that she violated…it is not that an opinion doesn’t matter but that there are guidelines that have to be followed.
This is not a public forum as such…it is HSN’s forum. They have control of the content. Of what gets posted. What stays, what goes. Even posts that get reported are not always deleted because they do not violate a guideline. You cannot just report a post and it gets deleted. It has to violate a specific HSN Guideline. That way people cannot report posts in retaliation for anything and get the posts deleted.
There are only 1-2 moderators working at a time, most times…they cannot be everywhere at once and dealing with immediate problems that arise. I would think that it was caught well after the post by a moderator that found a problem with it and deleted it. Not by a report of one person.
I really don’t think a moderator just ‘came along’ after two weeks of your remaks being there and deleted it. Moderaters are on these boards all the time checking on whether or not they deem something appropriate or not and yes…will delete things very quickly.
I really think (IMHOO)…that ‘someone else’ may have just come along…read your comments…and found them to be (at least to them) not appropriate or just didn’t ‘like’ it…and then perhaps reported it by clicking the little wheel thing found in the upper right of every post we put in a thread. People on these boards sometimes even have their ‘friends’ join in and do this for whatever reason they want. I’m not saying that this is what absolutely happened, but is just a thought as to what ‘does’ sometimes happen and what ‘can’ happen in a community of public forums.
I don’t know what you said. I vaguely remember the thread…but I suppose it can be expected. People on public forums come from every corner of the world and are here as faceless personalites behind a computer screen. Some people come simply to enjoy themselves and share product information and things they love..and some to ‘socialize’ digitally…and then some just like to stir the pot, and then pretend to not know anything. Some may come to blow off steam…and others because it’s the only way to be a ‘part’ of something. And not everyone always has genuinely great motives for what they do here…either on the boards…and/or even behind the scene. Since we really don’t ‘know’ people here…we also never ‘know’ what they may be capable of doing behind the posts either.
I’m not trying to be mean or hurt you…instead trying to explain that it isn’t always that you did something wrong but that someone else perhaps had another motive and in turn it hurt by having a post of yours deleted. I hear in your words now, that it hurt you and for that I’m sorry…but try to take it for what it’s worth and know that although not everyone will agree with all that is said…that a lot of us really do have pure and honest motives for being here, and that there are really a lot of nice people here too!
You know..with all this said…I could also be 100% wrong too, and maybe a moderator happened upon it weeks after it was posted and thought themselves that it wasn’t appropriate, but I think that would probably be the exception and not the rule because as I said in the beginning…the moderators are always here checking and are quite fair and forgiving for a lot of what is said around here…and will also post right on the thread that they had deleted something, reminding people to have fun but to be respectful. I personally think in the big picture that the moderators are quite lenient as to what is said in these threads.
Just know that a lot of us…although we may not always agree with posts…still enjoy them…:womanhappy:
Well, they gave me some sort of excuse. However, my opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s. I don’t agree with all of this unnatural behavior. So many people have crude, atypical urges. They have to learn to suppress and control them. Afterall, that’s part of what makes us human and humane.
Furthermore, my complaint was about the fact that my comment had been on the boards for at least a week. Then someone came along and suddenly deleted it, and gave me a warning! I don’t think it’s a just practice to eliminate a post after the fact. My post had already been sitting on the board for a while. It should have been left alone.
GrannyJez, I dont know about your case, But when I posted a pic of our new truck they deleted the pics almost as fast as i posted them! And Im Greatfull they did! when I took the pics I did not even think about my license plates! they were in the pics! So Im glad they monitor the post. But that was a Duh! moment for me. Thanks for the post and Im sorry you got edited! Have A GREAT SUNDAY!:smileyhappy: P.S. They did tell me why they deleted them.
If you got a messege from the moderator about the removal of the post, there should have been a reason it was deemed imappropriate…which guideline was violated. What’s the rest of the story?
GrannyJez, Your post probably wasn’t deleted until another poster found it offensive and reported it explaining why he/she thought it was offensive and didn’t meet Community Guidelines.
Hey Boodle…there’s only ONE judge that I’m worried about…and I’m up for the challenge.
I’m praying for you.
I did not agree with GrannyJez’s post, but I also wouldn’t agree that it should be removed. GrannyJez is obviously from a different era and I accept that. I’ve dealt with a lot of elders (my own parents) who see things as black & white & say some things that spin my head. But, I’ve learned that they are who they are and have been for longer than I’ve been alive….we are not going to change that…sorry, but true.
But, the times they are a-changin’! I think, for the better!
Not that I agree with anything the OP has ever said. Personally, I don’t think opinions or ideas should be censored or restricted in any way on a public forum. They’re just thoughts. It isn’t as if any actual damage or harm can be done by merely reading someone’s viewpoint. Actually, opinions give one insight into the mentality of that person. If the opinions are parochial, we know the person is limited. I happen to think it’s a useful way to determine whether or not I further participate in dialogue with that person.
I do remember the post. It was an odd comment that could have been viewed as offensive. But again, I’ll just use the opinion to guide my interaction.
boodlemum is correct…
Lack of understanding will not result in your post being deleted. If it did..the majority of certain posts here would also be deleted i.e. all the posts about Shannon, and how people ‘don’t understand’ how/why she packs of food on air…or…’why HSN presenters say "X" when they mean "Y"..etc…etc.
Now…’disrespectful’ or ‘caustic’ comments about and/or ‘towards’ others..will.
I would bank that how something was ‘said’ was more in line or viewed by HSN mods as such, and therefore they deleted that part of the post. As for the remark being there for weeks, could be 1)the mods just noticed it…or…and I’d guess that this is what more than likely happened, being that 2)someone read your post and either took offense or didn’t think it appropriate and ‘reported it’ by clicking on the little roundish star shaped thing to the right of all posts, which drew the remark to the attention of the moderators. I say (IMHOO)that this is what more than likely happened because the moderators are pretty fast to delete inappropriate things on a timely basis, as they seem to read threads quite often.
Just a thought…
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05.20.15 10:28 PM