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shih128 | Admirer 2 | 05.30.2009 8:28 PM
I use to love Jay's jewelry, not anymore. It is all made in China. There are a couple of earrings that are made in the USA. I really am not happy about it.
It is a shame that he is doing this now.
I guess that is why it is cheaper.
I lived in Santa Fe and I must tell you that the beautiful jewelry is all made right there.
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munizera | Admirer 2 | 04.19.2010 6:20 AM
Look on the band of most any ring you buy on TV, silver or gold; they will say "china" on them.
For silver I wish they would present more from Taxco. I agree that Jay King's pieces except for the newer pendants sets are kinda boring.
danibeth | Admirer 2 | 04.18.2010 3:31 AM
The last few pieces of Jay King I have bought seemed "off" to me. They were much lighter than the older ones I have and I notice that the silver is thinner. The green turquoise/cross and pink sterlite (sp) that I got on his last show are horrid. So, I am sending them back. Now that I know that they are made in China my disappointment is answered.

I will no longer watch or buy. So sad as he was an innovator for a time.
I agree that his designs are pretty much cookie-cutter and lack that wow factor that used to be there. No more.
tomato22 | Admirer 2 | 04.17.2010 7:01 PM
Dear All,

Chaco Canyon line of jewelry belongs to Jay King. He started on HSN with this line and it is all made in the USA and most of it on the Indian Reservations. The young woman who speaks for the line is his niece. How do I know. Jay King told me himself.

As much as I like Jay King I have to agree that his earlier work was wonderful. I did buy a few things from him earlier, but never got one of the beautiful silver braclets that were always hand made and not made in any large quantity. His quality has not remained the same since he went to China. But I wish him well. He has stores that he opened and I bet you would find gallery pieces there. We were lucky to have him present such beauty yrs ago. So I hope you scooped them up.

Thanks
tomato
CAROLINAMODEL | Admirer 2 | 04.17.2010 12:03 PM
TexasGal I sure wish I were not having a "senior moment" and could recall exactly what was said. I do know I purchased a higher end bracelet from Chaco because of a statement made regarding the stone and Jay King. If the bracelet had not sold out, I could view the video.

Hopefully someone else will drop by that has heard similar statements as now I am going n u t s trying to remember.](*,)

TEXASGALINFL | Admirer 2 | 04.16.2010 11:27 AM
Thanks Carolina........ I hadn't heard that specifically, but I do know that Jay King was the one responsible for bringing Chaco Canyon to HSN and that he has been their mentor. Therefore, it wouldn't surprise me at all to know that he shares his rough material with them. Thank you for bringing this to people's attention.
CAROLINAMODEL | Admirer 2 | 04.16.2010 2:14 AM
Maybe I dreamed it but I am almost 100 percent sure that when Chaco Canyon was on air she has mentioned numerous times that the stones in some of her pieces were fabulous because she acquired them from Jay King. Has anyone else heard this?
TEXASGALINFL | Admirer 2 | 04.15.2010 2:13 PM
I'm the first one to agree that waaaaay too many things are "made in China" and that China practically owns us and that it is NOT a good thing for America. However, THAT WAS NOT MY POINT!!! My point was, WHY jump on Jay King about this EVERY time his name is mentioned on this board?????? THAT was my point.
mojofilter | Admirer 3 | 04.15.2010 5:47 AM
Actually, this isn't bashing of anyone...or?

The USA has the second highest TAX consequences globally for businesses doing business in the USA. It is hurting all our businesses, because they can go to other countries without the HIGH tax liabilities faced in the USA. Ever think why China doesn't have large business productions here? Taxes, regulations, bureaucracy, more taxes, more regulations, and penalties if you don't provide certain things to your employees...etc...etc...etc...

You want things made in the USA? Buy (at a higher cost) things made in the USA, hope they will survive, and remember this the next time you vote.


So you're suggesting that we "vote" to get rid of pesky bureaucracy, regulations, and penalties such as... the minimum wage, child labor laws, OSHA and EPA regulations, etc. etc. etc.? Great, so we'll be able to buy products "Made in the USA," but we'll be essentially living in China.
pookie | Admirer 1 | 04.14.2010 2:29 AM
Actually, this isn't bashing of anyone...or?

The USA has the second highest TAX consequences globally for businesses doing business in the USA. It is hurting all our businesses, because they can go to other countries without the HIGH tax liabilities faced in the USA. Ever think why China doesn't have large business productions here? Taxes, regulations, bureaucracy, more taxes, more regulations, and penalties if you don't provide certain things to your employees...etc...etc...etc...

You want things made in the USA? Buy (at a higher cost) things made in the USA, hope they will survive, and remember this the next time you vote.
TEXASGALINFL | Admirer 2 | 04.13.2010 8:25 AM
I just don't understand the need to bash Jay King EVERYtime his name is mentioned on this board. Talented craftsmen are talented craftsmen regardless of their nationality. I have been buying Jay King jewelry for over 12 years and I think it is only getting better. Mother Nature MAKES his rough, man only improves on that. At least it starts out real.......unlike MOST of the jewelry on HSN. I'll take real, any day. Of course, if you all are among those who have lost your jobs to someone in China, then I can certainly understand your anger and frustration. Otherwise, ENOUGH of the Jay King bashing.
Meezergeezer | Advisor 1 | 04.12.2010 9:39 PM
if we continue to send everything over to China - who the heck in the USA will be working to buy these products???
jeannellen | Admirer 3 | 04.12.2010 9:09 PM
Victoria Wieck's absolute pieces are, also, made in China. I don't buy her jewelry anymore. I, also, hate to give a gift of jewelry that is stamped 'China'. Makes the gift look cheap IMHO.
katperson | Admirer 3 | 04.12.2010 8:12 PM
One important thing to realize about things assembled in China, those people have been making jewelry and most of all, cutting stones for generations. They have it down to a science and personally, I want someone who has been doing it for years and is an "expert" at gem cutting rather than someone who is just a novice. Cutting stones the correct way is essential to whether or not it presents well.
pookie | Admirer 1 | 04.12.2010 10:26 AM
After you round out stones you picked up somewhere, you have a bunch of stone chips on the ground. So you slice them really thin, attach them in a sterlingLESS mosaic, glue them down, slap on a piece of cheap glass, and sell it as a doublet.

And these pieces sold out. I just don't get it.

Oh? I'm just randomly speaking off the top of my head...:-"
JLLH | Admirer | 04.12.2010 1:07 AM
I like Jay King's jewelry - when you figure the price versus quality as it compares to others who make items like he does, it's far more affordable.

If it was made in the USA, 50% of us wouldn't be able to afford it, so I'm glad he does what he can to make it affordable for the majority.


I too love his designs - ironically more now than I used to. Keep up the great work, Jay!
Diane366 | New Friend | 04.11.2010 11:51 PM
I like Jay King's jewelry - when you figure the price versus quality as it compares to others who make items like he does, it's far more affordable.

If it was made in the USA, 50% of us wouldn't be able to afford it, so I'm glad he does what he can to make it affordable for the majority.
TOOBLONDE | Admirer 3 | 06.02.2009 12:15 PM
I like to watch Jay's shows, but I don't personally care for large, heavy beaded jewelry, or his many brown and/or grey mystery gemstones. I really do prefer the Southwestern designs offered on the Q, because they are so much more colorful and wearable for me (I'm not a large person). Their designs are also more intricate and interesting, rather than just "in-your'face" big.
wahoogaz | Admirer 2 | 06.01.2009 12:20 AM
starsdancing - thanks for the info about Chaco Canyon. I always seem to miss their shows. I usually shop online for their pieces, but I really enjoy watching the vendor who represent them. It's been so long since I've seen a show, I can't remember her name.
starsdancing | Admirer 3 | 05.31.2009 11:53 PM
I have been passing on Jay's jewelry because it is made in China. I decided to order from QVC's last Southwestern jewelry shows where the pieces are made in the USA. However, I did notice that HSN's Chaco Canyson line will have a today's special in June and their items are made in the USA.
fiftiesdolls | Admirer 3 | 05.31.2009 10:37 PM
Silver still is not that expensive (around $14.00/oz.) however I have noticed that Jay's bracelets are much more narrow than they used to be. I think many jewelry manufacturers are cutting corners to make a higher profit on each piece seeing the demand is not as great as it was a few years ago.
JudiBluz | Admirer | 05.31.2009 4:38 PM
I have to agree with LightofDay. Jay's jewelry is very 'cookie cutter' with the only variety being the stones used. His quality of both stone and design has really gone downhill. I don't even bother to watch his shows any longer.
LightofDay | Admirer 3 | 05.31.2009 4:05 PM
I keep trying to love his line as much as I used to, but I'm not successful. It is so weird because you have all these gorgeous gem varieties, every kind of new design/bead cuts, versatility of pieces with removable and now reversible pendants ... but still there is this 'something' that makes then ordinary rather than special or even extraordinary.

This is obviously JMO, but very few of them today have that solid, substantial custom-made quality to them. They somehow have managed to make all these different designs have the same cookie-cutter look & feel. He gives a rainbow of variety, and they all start to look & feel the same, which is almost bizarre. They have a definite commercial quality to them. Is this the China factor (or just cutbacks in general, due to silver prices, etc.) What was the time frame he pulled production from US and moved it to China?


I long for the old Jay King quality.
shih128 | Admirer 2 | 05.31.2009 1:27 AM
I agree. I just bought his pear shape earrings. They are made in USA. However, I will not buy any of his other things. They just are not same quality as years ago. Too bad that he has to send his stuff to be made in China. The Native Americans need the work.
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fiftiesdolls | Admirer 3 | 05.31.2009 12:37 AM
I have been watching Jay this weekend and hearing him stress over and over about all the silver he uses is "green" and always bought from USA silver. Never does he mention that all that must be sent to China to have the jewelry made. I have quite a few pieces of Jay's jewelry but a lot of it was bought several years ago. I did buy a ring a couple of year's ago and it didn't seem to be of the quality of his older pieces.
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Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I use to love Jay's jewelry, not anymore. It is all made in China. There are a couple of earrings that are made in the USA. I really am not happy about it.
It is a shame that he is doing this now.
I guess that is why it is cheaper.
I lived in Santa Fe and I must tell you that the beautiful jewelry is all made right there.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I have been watching Jay this weekend and hearing him stress over and over about all the silver he uses is "green" and always bought from USA silver. Never does he mention that all that must be sent to China to have the jewelry made. I have quite a few pieces of Jay's jewelry but a lot of it was bought several years ago. I did buy a ring a couple of year's ago and it didn't seem to be of the quality of his older pieces.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I agree. I just bought his pear shape earrings. They are made in USA. However, I will not buy any of his other things. They just are not same quality as years ago. Too bad that he has to send his stuff to be made in China. The Native Americans need the work.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I keep trying to love his line as much as I used to, but I'm not successful. It is so weird because you have all these gorgeous gem varieties, every kind of new design/bead cuts, versatility of pieces with removable and now reversible pendants ... but still there is this 'something' that makes then ordinary rather than special or even extraordinary.

This is obviously JMO, but very few of them today have that solid, substantial custom-made quality to them. They somehow have managed to make all these different designs have the same cookie-cutter look & feel. He gives a rainbow of variety, and they all start to look & feel the same, which is almost bizarre. They have a definite commercial quality to them. Is this the China factor (or just cutbacks in general, due to silver prices, etc.) What was the time frame he pulled production from US and moved it to China?


I long for the old Jay King quality.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I have to agree with LightofDay. Jay's jewelry is very 'cookie cutter' with the only variety being the stones used. His quality of both stone and design has really gone downhill. I don't even bother to watch his shows any longer.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

Silver still is not that expensive (around $14.00/oz.) however I have noticed that Jay's bracelets are much more narrow than they used to be. I think many jewelry manufacturers are cutting corners to make a higher profit on each piece seeing the demand is not as great as it was a few years ago.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I have been passing on Jay's jewelry because it is made in China. I decided to order from QVC's last Southwestern jewelry shows where the pieces are made in the USA. However, I did notice that HSN's Chaco Canyson line will have a today's special in June and their items are made in the USA.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

starsdancing - thanks for the info about Chaco Canyon. I always seem to miss their shows. I usually shop online for their pieces, but I really enjoy watching the vendor who represent them. It's been so long since I've seen a show, I can't remember her name.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I like to watch Jay's shows, but I don't personally care for large, heavy beaded jewelry, or his many brown and/or grey mystery gemstones. I really do prefer the Southwestern designs offered on the Q, because they are so much more colorful and wearable for me (I'm not a large person). Their designs are also more intricate and interesting, rather than just "in-your'face" big.
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RE: Jay King's Jewelry all made in China

I like Jay King's jewelry - when you figure the price versus quality as it compares to others who make items like he does, it's far more affordable.

If it was made in the USA, 50% of us wouldn't be able to afford it, so I'm glad he does what he can to make it affordable for the majority.
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